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Sunday, April 23, 2006

Wenger labels Spurs "liars"

The North London derby is one the best fixtures in the Premiership. Full of passion, excitement, controversy and now squaring-up contests between the mangers. Wenger and Jol were nose to nose, eyeball to eyeball and the assitant ref was like a boxing referree keeping them apart. Extraordinary! And the reason why? Because Spurs scored whilst two Arsenal players were down injured.

The "rule" about putting the ball out of play when players are down injured is accepted by all footballers worldwide. OK we all have to accept that sometimes players just don't see this and sod's law they go and score. This is what the Spurs camp are saying anyhow. Wenger does not accept this. He says, "their first goal was a disgrace. They lie when they say they didn't see it. I can't believe they didn't see it. Of course they lie. I find it very disappointing and it is a shame that a thing like that can happen."

I have the utmost respect for Wenger and can understand why he is angry. However I think it unnecessary that he should label Spurs as liars. Henry's behaviour on the contrary was exemplary; not only is he a great player but now also a great diplomat. He said that Arsenal had the right to be angry at the time but that he also accepts what Carrick and Davids told him after the game that they did not see Arsenal's players injured. Wenger could learn a few lessons from his captain. I hate to think what he would have said had Arsenal lost the game.


Blogger RedsMan said...

I wish to go into detail on this match, SKG, and will reserve that for my article on the afternoon/evening as a whole. I agree with your comments, it was the first I'd seen Wenger so animated, which is something one didn't equate tot he Arsenal boss before. I've known Wenger to be very cool even where Arsenal are behind.


4/23/2006 1:16 pm

Blogger Begeegs said...

Too bad that Jol yelled 'Play it' three times and was picked up by the Sky microphones.

4/23/2006 6:24 pm

Blogger T said...

As a Gunner, I agree entirely with SKG's perspective. It doesn't sit right with me to hear our great manager calling other people liars- even if he may be accurate making that accusation.

It would be good to see Wenger adopt the IMO spot-on Henry approach if further asked about his views on the incident.

Begeegs, I haven't heard those comments from the Sky microphones. Maybe Wenger heard those words from Jol and that is why is he so angry and disillusioned about the Spurs manager's later denial? That said, I still think it is a negative on Wenger's part to call his counterpart a liar.

I'll save my comments on the match -and it's consequences - for Redsman's weekend review.

4/23/2006 8:15 pm

Blogger RedsMan said...

I watched it live on Sky Sports and hadn't heard those comments having been picked up. At best, such comments could have been for something else other than to encourage play to continue with the knowledge of the players on the pitch.

T, as honest as your excellent skipper. I would be incense if I felt the ball should go out but in the event I play until the official stops the game.


4/23/2006 8:23 pm

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Given he's the originator of the selective vision syndrome, Wenger has some nerve.

But he really does.

We all know the ball is played into touch far too regularly these days when a player goes down but this went further than that. This was two Arsenal players that collided.

The ref said play on so Spurs did.

Spurs also deserved to take all three points as they were better throughout against an Arsenal line-up that frankly was an insult.

4/23/2006 10:35 pm

Blogger EL said...

I thought Gavin Peacock on MOTD had it spot on. The ball should surely only be kicked into touch if it's clear that a player is or could well be badly injured and needs immediate medical attention. The ref checked and this was without doubt not the case so Spurs were signalled by the official to play on. I can't see where the argument is.

4/24/2006 1:04 am

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Agree with you El. The talking point isn't the spurs goal but Wenger's behaviour. The ref motioned to play on, Arsenal continued to play, so did spurs. The way Wenger reacted was fantastically petulant and to be honest offensive. He marched off down the tunnel rejecting Jols handshake and spouted a thoroughly incorrect, and frankly hypocritical, emotional and unprofessional reaction of events. Will we see him apologise? Of course not!

Would also say that coupled with Benitez's recent comments about Spurs over Cisse (a situation spurs had made no comment on other than to deny interest) are we seeing the 'welcome to the big boys' targetting by top managers of a club they see as breaking into long term contention? The mind games to unsettle a fledgling spurs side have begun!

4/24/2006 1:58 pm

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've thought of a great new tactic which might help arsenal in the uefa cup next year.

everytime the opposition gets anywhere near your penalty area all your players run into each other and fall down and wait for the other team to kick the ball out giving you plenty of time to get in the right positions.

think it might help?

4/25/2006 10:03 am

Blogger RedsMan said...

Anon (12.58PM), was it not Cisse's agent who released words suggesting Spurs had contacted him in regard to Cisse's availability? Cisse's potential availability, thus potential transfer to Spurs, was made public, which angered Benitez to retort in regard to that and Defoe. Daniel Levy denied, along with Martin Jol, Spurs were not interested or made any interest,a nd requested for Benitez to apologise for his comments.

I believe both respective chairmen met to discuss and amicably concluded a misuderstanding had taken place. I wouldn't call this a prelude to 'targetting' or mind games.


4/26/2006 10:42 pm


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