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Tuesday, October 18, 2005

Fit to be Captain of England?

Who is fit to be captain of England? David Beckham, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, Paul Robinson, Rio Ferdinand, Sol Campbell, Michael Owen, John Terry, Gary Neville, Ashley Cole?

These players are the most senior in the squad. We saw Beckham sent off against Austria, Owen taking the band, then he came off with Gerrard taking it. On Wednesday Owen came off and gave the armband to Terry, who was reported to have said he kept the band and sneaked it out all the way home, to frame it with his shirt.

I was hesitant when Sven Goran Eriksson picked Beckham, who had been lambasted for his sending off in WC1998, but he was the darling of the public and his football had turned for the much better. Right now Beckham is doing a good job, though I wish he would get at the players much more to boost them. Owen is just right as vice-captain with Sol Campbell as deputy vice-captain. Terry has stated he is fit and ready to captain England, a call that could well be heeded. Do you think Beckham is still fit enough to lead England, or maybe any other person mentioned above are believed to be better suited right now?

I also found this report:

"John Terry is better equipped to captain England than David Beckham, according to a company which measures leadership qualities. The 24-year-old Chelsea defender, who is captain of his club, scores more highly in the study by leadership measurement consultancy SFL than the Real Madrid star. Terry outshines Beckham in the four key study areas - the ability to inspire as a role model, motivator, ideas generator and coach.

John Fay, SFL's managing director, said: "We measured the players' leadership abilities by assigning scores to their individual behaviours and attributes. "These are categorised into four key areas. In the role model criteria, Terry scored 3.9, double Beckham's score of 1.8. We believe this is because Beckham's celebrity lifestyle has a damaging effect on the players' respect for him in the dressing room. By contrast, John Terry's no-nonsense, tough approach makes him an ideal role model for international football leadership."

But while Terry is a fair way down Sven-Goran Eriksson's pecking order, SFL rank him higher than his more experienced team-mate. "In the criteria of motivator, Beckham scored 2.8 in recognition of his ability to motivate through his actions, but is roundly beaten by Terry with a full-house 4.0 points, who not only plays with unbridled conviction, but whose vocal presence encourages his team-mates throughout the game," Fay added. "As ideas generators, both players achieve broadly similar scores, 2.8 to Beckham and 3.0 to Terry. As a 'coach', Terry is more able to win the respect of all members of the team.

"It is unlikely that Wayne Rooney would have shown a similar dissenting attitude to Terry as he did to Beckham in the Northern Ireland match."

Fay concluded: "Leadership is the deciding factor for England to win the World Cup. On the basis of our study, it is clear that Sven needs to make a bold leadership decision and address the issue of captaincy. And that means appointing John Terry now."

According to the above, Terry is statistically better equipped to lead than Beckham. Pick three players, captain, vice-captain and deputy vice-captain, they can be from the above players or elsewhere in the English league. You may know or sense someone else not included who could be a better skipper, or at least be included in the England squad.



Blogger Kim Stian Ervik said...

Big Sol is a silent man and not suitable as captain.

10/18/2005 8:59 pm

Anonymous daza said...

Surely Steven Gerrard should be captain of England he is only 1 of 2 players who leads by example and the other being John Terry, Gerrard is the 1 true player who drives England on into attack, the man nevers gives up let me remind you of the champions league final as an example.

10/18/2005 10:53 pm

Anonymous ameet said...

The armband should stay with beckham for now, but in the future it will rest on steven gerrard's arm...lampard wil never be in my picture , i still think he was never present 3 years ago so was terry, but terry has proved a lot when he was next to a shaky desaily ..but lamaprd was surrounded by makelele without whom he is just an ordinary england, gerrard does all his donkey .whereas gerrad is better attacking ...i think gerrad and parker or gerrard and murphy or gerrad and carrick are all world class midfeild partners..i still think lampard is just blessed with tons of luck thats all...he has no mroe to offer unlicke the rest of the names armband holder gerrard for the nest 10 years..vice cap owen who else

10/19/2005 3:21 am

Blogger RedsMan said...

Lampard's form for England improved with Beckham suspended and Gerrard injured, notably giving Eriksson the opportunity to disavow a straight 4-man midfield, adding that which others have called for in a holding midfielder in King, and with accomplices in SWP and J Cole, Lampard effectively had his rule of mildfield. Now if Gerrard stated the two of Lampard and himself can alternate the holding position, then they can both play together. Yet such a situation wouldn't allow Lampard to get forward when he felt like and could disturb his game.

The hierarchy appears to dictate Beckham, Owen, Campbell, Gerrard. Now what if you have an ever-present Beckham, Owen, Gerrard and injured Campbell, and then Campbell comes back and, with Beckham and Owen off, takes the band, even though he had been away and Gerrard had been helping, with Beckham and Owen, to keep the players focused and aware, attacking periodically and creating chances? Would seem unfair.

On current form, with injuries, in the absence of Beckham and Owen, for whatever reason, I suspect a few voices would urge for either Lampard or Terry to take the band, being two of a successful Premiership title-winning team that are on a strong course to retaining the title? Particularly when you see Terry coming to meet practically every aerial and ground ball to clear, and Lampard playing better without another central midfielder but a holding one?

Does the England captain have to be one at club level? Beckham isn't, Gerrard and Terry are, Lampard is vice-captain, I would think Neville will be if or when Roy Keane leaves OT, Paul Robinson is vice-captain at Spurs and I wouldn't be surprised if Owen is captain in Shearer's absence. I still say Beckham is good enough with some improvements needed. He has been in excellent form for Real recently and if he could transfer that to the national side, we'd see more of Beckham contributing than before.

The report above signifies something like 'Beckham is old news; bring on the new in John Terry', someone else with London roots, London club (being the capital) and a bulldog spirit more than fancy tricks, curling flicks, hairsprays and Chanel no.803637344. Notice it mentioned Beckham's celebrity lifestyle hampers his reputation as opposed to Terry's low-down no-nonsense approach (especially after his acquittal in an assault case some time ago).

So that is more food for thought. Beckham has, at least with Real, aimed to be more than a celebrity though I'd want more of it with England. Terry, and Lampard, are two strong contenders.


10/19/2005 9:58 am

Blogger T said...

I like it Redsman, good article. I'd like to know whether the consultancy firm is anyway linked to John Terry??

Is Terry assured an England place?-for me its too tight to call between Rio, Sol and Terry for the starting role- let alone giving Terry the captaincy.

If Terry is assured a starting place, I see him as the successor to Beckham. He is a natural leader- unlike Sol and Owen. The problem with Gerrard is that his natural expression is one of depression (or is it only me who thinks this) and he talks in the same manner too.

Furthermore, if Eriksson persists with four in midfield and King/Parker in the holding role- then Gerrard is not guaranteed a starting place.

10/19/2005 12:08 pm

Blogger RedsMan said...

It may sound as if there is a call for Eriksson to continue with the holding King behind a 3-man midfield, therefore dropping Gerrard, something I wonder could be attributed to Lampard being with Chelsea. Well, not neccessarily dropping Gerrard, who someone has indicated could play on the left-wing, though hardly likely. But surely if there is a 4-man midfield in front of a holding player, Gerrard will be involved?? And wouldn't that then reduce one from either the attack or defence?


10/19/2005 1:21 pm

Blogger T said...

Redsman, do you remember my Lampard/Gerrard article where I suggested the two together don't work. This was somewhat proved when Gerrard was unavailable for the Poland game and England had a far better balance with the holding midfiled player that I was calling for.

Eriksson must persist with this. His dilemma then is to drop Lampard or Gerrard to the bench. I suggested before the Poland game that Lampard should marginally make way. But his performance in the Poland game now puts him in front of Gerrard. I don't think its a bad thing to have such an impact player waiting on the bench: in fact, I think its a positive thing.

What do you think?

10/19/2005 1:51 pm

Blogger BlindJak said...

T, assuming that a holding player in introduced at the expense of either Gerrard/Lampard Sven has to decide on consistency or brilliance.

When playing at 100% peak ability I’d have to say that Gerrard is probably a better player and is more likely to control a game and drive his team forward than Lamps. However he is inconsistent in how often he delivers such match winning performances.

With Lampard you have bankable consistency as he plays at the same level week in and week out. Not to mention he has a better goal scoring record.

10/19/2005 2:14 pm

Blogger RedsMan said...

Using the holding midfielder, Eriksson looks on including Lampard and Gerrard in a 4-1-4-1, they can both be forward. In a 4-1-3-2 then it's one of them, or Gerrard on the left. Hardly likely Gerrard would be put on the wing but if it satisfies both players playing and the formation is more comfortable, particularly if the media have anything to do with it, then Gerrard on the wing is not a bad option, meaning both players still get to be starting and pleasing to the public.

Yet I feel attention was not highlighted on Poland coming forward in the second half too often and that King in his holding role wasn't around to help thwart the goal. It may have been decent to watch against Poland, but the real test has yet to happen. Lampard benefits generously from Chelsea while Gerrard has to really settle as Liverpool fight to keep some regular form. What would the case if it was Gerrard in the middle against Poland?

I think many look on the 4-1-3-2 as the appropriate formation for England, mainly because of the Poland game, and consider Lampard over Gerrard because of Chelsea and Lampard's performance that Wednesday.

I'd be interested in your captaincy views, T and blindjak.


10/20/2005 2:11 am

Blogger T said...

Redsman, I wrote about my captaincy views in the 12:08 comment yesterday, unless there's something else you'd like me to comment on?

10/20/2005 11:59 am

Blogger RedsMan said...

Sorry, T, didn't read it at first though I'm looking for "Captain:???, ViceCaptain:????, Deputy Vice Captain:????", probably why I didn't pick it up first time. I have now, thanks.


10/20/2005 8:51 pm

Blogger T said...

Did you know Redsman that I'm in line to be the deputy, deputy, deputy....... deputy, deputy, vice captain of England! I think you are after me!!

Do you remember in a friendly against Serbia & Montenegro in June 2003 that Phil Neville and Emile Heskey were among four different wearers of the armband in that match: quite shocking in retrospect!

10/20/2005 11:52 pm

Blogger RedsMan said...

Despite the aurora of the armband, particularly at international level, being tempting, passing it to P Neville and Heskey was not appropriate. That must have been a severe temporary loss of senses! Decent players they are, they were not right to wear the armband.


10/21/2005 12:27 pm


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