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Friday, December 29, 2006

Valley Clanger enhances video replays calls??

On Wednesday, Charlton hosted Fulham for the last post-Xmas fixture and toasted Alan Pardew's introduction as their new manager, inevitably replacing Les Reed. Book must be a best seller. Charlton went behind to a poor defensive error that failed to clear a freekick, Carlos Bocanegra headed against the bar and the ball came down to Brian McBride to score. So it looked as if doom would settle again in a defeat, albeit early in the game, but later Fulham defended poorly themselves. Jerome Thomas miskicked a high ball and Antii Niemi aimed a lame punch that fell to Darren Ambrose, whose strike went in off the post. A goalkick later from Scott Carson and both Bocanegra and Liam Rosenior confused each other and allowed Darren Bent to run on and score past Niemi.

Fulham looked more likely to score next but Charlton were plucky, and resisted the advances right into the dying seconds of injury time. As it looked that Pardew's introduction could start a mini-revival from the first match, Radostin Kishishev stretched to reach the ball in the centre, it was chased by Tomasz Radzinski and Djimi Traore and bounced off Radzinski's chest for a throw to Charlton, yet the nearest linesman flagged the decision Fulham's way, the referee gave a freekick. So presumably it was for a handball. Michael Brown took the kick, mere seconds remaining, Herman Hreidarsson jumped to clear rashly and headed against Talal El Karkouri, the ball then dropped for Franck Queudrue to hit right-footed, off a player into the net. A simple stay of execution for Fulham and though the one win would have not made a season, to be that close under a new manager and a performance of grit to three points to see it snatched like that must have been wretched.

How the linesman gave the decision Fulham's way is sheer bewilderment. Nonetheless the other side is the kick was not near, the further it was lessened the danger element and Charlton had to simply call, jump and clear the ball and surely that would have been it. Though the argument can then be made for video replays to ensure the clarity of any decision, perhaps not from the outset but in the long run, I would still say no to them. I sense the practicality of the replays will deaden the pace of the game and potentially kill it off. It was a poor decision in the Charlton game, one which I would put on the same level as the Pedro Mendes goal against Man Utd at Old Trafford at the expense of Roy Carroll, a blatant decision to have made that simply went to contravene vision and sense.

Yet I think the humanity of the officials help make the entertainment and the flow of the game rise to contentment within the fans, who simply pay to come and watch and take in. Decisions can go your way, then they don't but a good measure of it is predominantly rested on the shoulders of the officials. Jamie Redknapp on Sky Sports made the point of another bad decision involving Graeme Poll, but it could have been any official out there. The officials have to simply train a keen eye on all in their control, not for it to be left to a camera lens and electronic technology.



Anonymous Anonymous said...

No: the 'humanity of the officials' is NOT what the fans pay their money for. They pay their money to see two sides give their all and play on an even playing field and get their just deserves. This article is total appeasement to the unmitigated incompetence of both Poll and the linesman. Poll was incompetent in allowing the kick to be taken from where it was and not seeing the incident clearly, given how close he was. The sooner we realise that we want anonymous good quality officials, not self promoting egotistical individuals the better. These referrees deserve to be penalised not revered.

12/29/2006 11:27 am

Blogger John said...

I agree wholeheartedly with annon. Though I thought Poll had a reasonable game but the evil little weasel of a linesman, was a different story. Made some bad calls in the first half and then the free kick, well he obviously knew he was wrong by the way he was hiding behind Poll at the end. Evil, jumped up little worm, hasent even got the bottle to appologise, put his hands up to say sorry I was wrong. HE SHOULD BE SUSPENDED!!!!!

12/29/2006 12:46 pm

Anonymous Anonymous said...

If by "the humanity of the officials help make the entertainment and the flow of the game rise to contentment within the fans", you mean that the capacity of officials to make mistakes adds entertainment value, then why don't we just start using learning disabled referees and really enjoy ourselves?

I watch football to see the best team win, not to see the team who are given the greatest number of bad decisions lose. Which sadly happens more frequently than is often acknowledged. The 'entertainment' argument is one which has been used to justify both the playoffs and the parachuting of champions league losers into the uefa cup knockout stages, each of which I despise with a passion.

Any change in football which leads to a greater likelihood of the correct team winning according to the rules should be encouraged and developed in such a way that it impinges on the flow of the game as little as possible. I believe this is quite possible but I know this idea concerns many fans who assume that the game would become 'clunky'. I'm not of that opinion as I don't think the basis of the technology would be for the referee on the field to directly concern himself with. That would be the sole job of a monitor ref who would interject only if he saw a significant refereeing mistake in a crucial area of the field. I'm aware that the idea can sound complex and interfering but I believe it could work well. I've noticed how much of a gap there is between a ref blowing his whistle and finaly giving the decision, especially when he consults the linesman. I don't see why it would be more time consuming for the ref to consult a monitor ref using his headset and surely a referee using monitors and several camera angles would give a far more accurate reading of an incident.

Just a thought.

I've enjoyed my first year using this site and hope to enjoy a 2nd just as much. Great work redsman and all those who regularly contribute.

All the best in 2007.

12/29/2006 3:45 pm

Anonymous Striker said...

Dear EliteFootballTalk Team:
Happy New Year & fantastic 2007...


12/29/2006 7:27 pm

Blogger RedsMan said...

On the contrary, the fans pay to attend the event before them, that includes two teams competing to score one goal more than the other at the least to gain victory. Along the way to that objective are the decisions of the officials during the duration of the game, without which fierce conduct would prevail without instant adjudication.

Fans pay to watch the game because they have an interest, and part of that game are the decisions, so in effect fans are paying to also witness the officiation. Because of human judgement at the speed of movement not always being 100% correct due to natural reactions dictating so, it is not a guarantee the referee will get all decisions right.

There is a good point that the electronic technology may not be a concern for the referee. But the question then is would all involved prefer the referee to take time to consult a monitoring official every time, or at his discretion, at the time or seconds later? Would the position of a monitoring official contravene the employment of the linesman? Perhaps that last question is not a concern for most fans preferring for the referees to be done with, much less linesmen!

Officials have been penalised previously, within the domain of officials, for decisions that they apparently should have seen with their trained eye and judged accordingly. I refer to Leeds' Roy Keane shoving Man Utd's David Beckham, after which Dermot Gallagher was temporarily demoted to the Championship (as I mention that, Gallagher officiated at the Ben Thatcher moment with Pedro Mendes not so long ago, so it could be argued such demotion made no difference). Uriah Rennie may have suffered the same fate.

Being a LFC fan, we suffered poorly when a linesman signalled a breach when Pepe Reina went to kick the ball from his hands, judged to have carried the ball out of the area. A freekick later Bolton were 1-0 up. We still should have defended better to deny the goal but there you are. I wouldn't call for the linesman to be penalised, it was a bad error. Had it occurred, like at the Valley, with seconds remaining, it would make no difference.

I certainly don't condone such errors. But I dont see the need to hit on the officials every time when they do make them, unless the error is of the kind I mentioned above re Roy Carroll. The Valley decision still allowed Charlton the chance to defend and simply clear that ball, the Carroll decision straight away denied a clear goal, too clear to accept human error over.


12/30/2006 2:33 am

Blogger T said...

Good article Redsman, and good discussion. El and me have discussed this previously coming down on different sides of the fence.

Practically, there is the concern that the 'monitor ref' will feel obliged to use his power many times during match and hence really interrupt the rhythm and pace of matches. Today, for example, watching my team get beaten at Bramall lane (not enjoyable viewing!) I thought the ref missed quite a few things. If I was in the booth as a video ref I would then have been stopping the play quite often... and this would also have perhaps undermined the confidence of the ref on the pitch as well as causing too many interruptions of the match.

Anyways, back to the Charlton match, it was a howler of a decision by the assistant ref... me and my brother couldn't believe the decision and I was soon in contact with Redsman who concurred. But this incident alone does not convince me that video tech is the answer... competent decision-making by officials in the heat of the moment is what is required and introduction of sanctions for really bad decisions (like the Dermot Gallacher example highlighted by Redsman) for me is the more appropritate solution.

(P.S. Thanks Striker and El for your good wishes for the new year... they are certainly reciprocated by the EFT team).

12/30/2006 8:26 pm

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, while your at it, why not write about when Sheffiedl united were big boys last night against Arsenal, men and boys it was and hats off to Utd who shut up on Arsene's boys. Jagielka in goal for 30mins and they still didnt score! Oh yes, the team we will all fear looking at the teamsheet......ha!

12/31/2006 11:59 am


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